and that is obama care. >> obama care is really, i think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. and it is in a way, it is slavery in a way. >> howard, is this the evil empire speech reapplied to obama care? i mean, i've never heard the word evil used to many times. i love the way sarah palin is unbelievably delicious at this. she talks about and those death panels are in there. i love the way she says the death panels are in there somewhere. like they're creeping around inside. >> i mean, sam very rightly and logically said these people should stop because the president said, repeated today, and reminded them that he's going to be in office. he can veto anything. so they ought to calm down. but the fact is when you watch a few of those clips and when you talk to people in the movement and when you cover some of these groups and so forth, you realize that there's something else going on here. it isn't just a piece of legislation with these people. it's a kind of crusade against some deeply evil force. it almost harkens back to the days when people were worried abou